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Pesos
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Playwell
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 Posted - 07/03/2012 : 03:39:46 AM
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Jazzy
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wobble_wobble
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Posted - 07/03/2012 : 05:29:38 AM
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I was at a presentation a few months ago and they are getting into the "aaS" space for want of a better term.
Quest may well allow them migrate workloads into their openstack Cloud IaaS/ PaaS/ SaaS infrastructures easier. |
Joe
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lacrosseboy
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Posted - 07/03/2012 : 07:40:08 AM
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| A guess, Microsoft and a venture capital company were both very interested in buying Quest. One item Microsoft wanted was the instant recovery for Exchange 2010. Very cool! My guess is Dell was the "white knight" for Quest and there are enough tools/toys the Dell can added to various practices they appear to be developing like with storage and security. Also, Dell may want to sell off the Quest items they are not interested in supporting. Just a guess... |
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Jazzy
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Posted - 07/03/2012 : 08:00:36 AM
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| I don't think Microsoft needs to buy a 3rd party tool for backup and disaster recovery of Exchange. Companies like Quest are important for Microsoft because they enable customers to use more Microsoft products, or even better switch to Microsoft from other vendors. |
Jetze Mellema
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aval
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Posted - 07/07/2012 : 10:19:19 PM
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Concerning Exchange, I don't know the Quest product in question but instant recovery of messages (?) might be useful.
Assuming a message can no longer be retrieved from 1) Recycle Bin or 2) Dumpster (Recoverable Items), or an entire mailbox can no longer be (re)connected, you would have to create a RSG (E2K7) or RDB (E2K10) and restore the entire database to retrieve the messages / mailbox in question. If there was software that you could aim at your backup file and retrieve the messages / mailbox directly, that might be a plus.
Now, how much you would be willing to pay to avoid an operation that you may not perform that often is another question. |
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Pesos
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Posted - 07/09/2012 : 12:18:11 PM
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| Currently Exchange restoration from DPM 2010/2012 is a serious PITA. Granular restore of mailboxes/items is sorely needed... |
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aval
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Posted - 07/10/2012 : 6:01:40 PM
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Yes, almost (not quite) like restoring the entire system state of a domain controller to restore a single user or OU in the W2K3 days - before the Active Directory dumpster.
Come to think of it, what does DPM offer over your regular disk image backup of an Exchange server?
Unless I missed something in W2K8 R2 / E2K10 SP1/2, you still cannot backup the database / logs alone (without backing up the entire disk) and still cannot restore at any level finer than the database.
I briefly experimented with DPM and when I discovered (unless mistaken) that you could not select the Exchange database and back it up alone, I stopped experimenting. It offered nothing more (that I could see) than a regular Windows full server backup. |
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Pesos
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Posted - 07/10/2012 : 6:09:18 PM
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The backup is much improved in 2010/2012. You can back up individual DBs - no need to back up an entire disk. And it's nice to have it all centralized in one place with all your other backups. But having to restore an entire DB is ridiculous.
As long as the dumpster window is long enough you should rarely if ever have to restore, but that also needs some work. When restoring from the dumpster in Outlook, it simply restore all selected objects to whatever folder you happen to be sitting in - there is no way to just restore stuff back to its original spot. |
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Dell buys Quest
