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protech
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Posted - 11/09/2011 :  08:23:40 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Guys,

There is some confusion over ďdoes HV (officially)support Exch 2003Ē.

Microsoft say any Virtualisation Platform that followed Virtual Server 2005 would support it, but the obviously donít explicitly mention Hyper-V.
Microsoft now donít seem to mention anywhere if they do/donít (officially) support it, probably because they class it as a retired product.

My experience is that it does without any issues.
This guy says itís fine: http://www.windowsitpro.com/article/virtualization/virtualizing-exchange-2007-and-exchange-2003-with-hyper-v

Anyone know the truth? :)

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Curt
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Posted - 11/09/2011 :  09:42:27 AM  Show Profile  Visit Curt's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The truth is your environment is the definition.

Like in the expression "your milage may vary".

I heard that support for Exch2003 is over, so make sure you have your arms around it.

Curt Spanburgh
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Curt
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Posted - 11/09/2011 :  09:44:22 AM  Show Profile  Visit Curt's Homepage  Reply with Quote
And I had Exchange 2003 virtualized as far back as VMWARE GSX.

In production for several clients. No issues of great consequence.

Curt Spanburgh
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Jazzy
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Posted - 11/09/2011 :  10:06:28 AM  Show Profile  Visit Jazzy's Homepage  Click to see Jazzy's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
It's only supported on Virtual Server 2005 R2.

Jetze Mellema

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protech
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Posted - 11/09/2011 :  11:05:25 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Cheers guys - Jazzy - define 'supported' - do you mean by MS? as my experience shows that it will work unless anyone knows otherwise?
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Posted - 11/09/2011 :  2:26:11 PM  Show Profile  Click to see wkasdo's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
It's a funny thing. Exchange 2003 works fine on all modern hypervisors -- why wouldn't it? -- and lots of people do it. But as Jetze says, it's not supported by Microsoft.

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Curt
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Posted - 11/09/2011 :  2:37:17 PM  Show Profile  Visit Curt's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Have you ever called Exchange support late at night?

Then you would know why it's not "Supported".

I can't tell you how many of these "Techs" told me to reinstall Exchange when the issue was not in their Knowledgebase.


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Jazzy
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Posted - 11/09/2011 :  3:05:46 PM  Show Profile  Visit Jazzy's Homepage  Click to see Jazzy's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by protech

Cheers guys - Jazzy - define 'supported' - do you mean by MS? as my experience shows that it will work unless anyone knows otherwise?


Supported by Microsoft that is. See http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc794548(EXCHG.80).aspx
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Microsoft supports Exchange Server 2003 in production on hardware virtualization software (virtual machines) only when all the following conditions are true:

- The hardware virtualization software is Microsoft Virtual Server 2005 R2 or any later version of Microsoft Virtual Server.

- The version of Exchange Server that is running on the virtual machine is Microsoft Exchange Server 2003 with Service Pack 2 (SP2) or later.

- The Microsoft Virtual Server 2005 R2 Virtual Machine Additions are installed on the guest operating system.

- Exchange Server 2003 is configured as a stand-alone server and not as part of a Windows failover cluster.

- The SCSI driver that is installed on the guest operating system is the Microsoft Virtual Machine PCI SCSI Controller driver.

- The virtual hard disk Undo feature is not enabled for the Exchange virtual machine.

I presented serveral times on Exchange and virtualization best practices. I ask people to raise hands and ask three questions:
- Who runs Exchange 2003 servers?
- Who uses hardware virtualisation for these 2003 servers?
- Who has ever heard of a product called Virtual Server 2005 R2?

The answers are usaualy: 50%, 50% (same people), 0%.

Jetze Mellema

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