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jaxdave
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Posted - 06/02/2011 :  1:09:25 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Cloudswitch

http://www.cloudswitch.com/

I will most likely be implementing this late this year...


I have this in my lab now and I just received notice about this! WOW

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/08/25/idUS166750+25-Aug-2011+PRN20110825

Edited by - jaxdave on 08/25/2011 10:51:19 AM

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Posted - 06/02/2011 :  2:52:43 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Interesting. Can you share a little how/why/what on your scenario?

Thanks!

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Posted - 06/03/2011 :  12:19:37 AM  Show Profile  Visit PhilbertRupkins's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks for sharing. I am also interested in more details behind your business needs and usage scenarios if you are willing to share those as well.
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Posted - 07/06/2011 :  01:40:30 AM  Show Profile  Visit dmarelia's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Looks like a dumbed-down version of a Rightscale or Enstratus. Not a bad thing, depending upon requirements.

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Posted - 07/07/2011 :  3:59:34 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dmarelia

Looks like a dumbed-down version of a Rightscale or Enstratus. Not a bad thing, depending upon requirements.



Yes. Looking at Right Scale as well. had not heard of Enstratus, will have to give them a look.

Almost POC Time.

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Posted - 07/08/2011 :  2:58:34 PM  Show Profile  Visit Mark Minasi's Homepage  Reply with Quote
So it's just cloud STORAGE? What's the interface look like?

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Posted - 07/11/2011 :  1:41:56 PM  Show Profile  Visit dmarelia's Homepage  Reply with Quote
which one Mark? Cloudswitch looks mostly like a quick and dirty way to move private cloud instances to EC2. RightScale and Enstratus are more cloud orchestration products--for either public or hybrid cloud deployments.

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Posted - 07/11/2011 :  2:05:23 PM  Show Profile  Visit Mark Minasi's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I meant is the cloud storage interfacd iSCSI or something like that?

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Posted - 07/11/2011 :  3:46:31 PM  Show Profile  Visit dmarelia's Homepage  Reply with Quote
oh, well, hmm. no clue. This stuff is abstracted from that level. maybe someone else knows.

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Posted - 07/12/2011 :  9:39:58 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
cloud storage like the amazon elastic storage is storage space in the cloud or whatever marketing dot 3 will call it next. not an iscsi but Web Service API. we utilize it for a collection point of system messages between us and third party for example. what that truly is within Amazon's Xen Ec2 monster I really dont know. perhaps Steve R could shed some light on that :-)

cloud switch is an enabler to hybrid. one vm on your vmware vi, one vm on amazon or terramark. those vms create an encrypted tunnel as well as isolated network layer on top of EC2 for example. All data at rest and active is completly encrypted. Amazon sees that you are a customer paying for resource but your usage is isloated in a layer with cloudswitch patent pending technology that actually sits on top of the providers hypervisor. They say there is only a 5 percent hit with this encryption. so if one was to create a vm in private cloud and say move it to cloudswitch - amazon, cloud switch knows the ec2 offerings and matches that vm to that all on the fly. One still needs the account with Amazon and that is not integrated to the cloudswitch nor is cloudswitch currently integrated as a plugin to vcenter. It is pretty impressive technology. will be checking out rightscale, citrix netscaler cloud and what cloud.com means to that as well as enstratus which this thread actually brought them into my sight. These secure gateways to all of these services.

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Posted - 07/13/2011 :  5:38:15 PM  Show Profile  Visit Mark Minasi's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Ow, my head hurts, Dave, but thank you ... can I ask you to dumb it down a bit for me?

It sounds like

1) Amazon storage is just storage for a VM that you're renting. You'd get big whacks of data from Amazon to your datacenter using FTP or something like that.

2) Cloudswitch is, in contrast, creating some kind of VPN tunnel that contains a file transfer protocol of some kind. Or can you access it via REST verbs? Sorry for being stupid, thanks for the help.

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Posted - 07/13/2011 :  6:18:52 PM  Show Profile  Visit wobble_wobble's Homepage  Look at the Skype address for wobble_wobble  Reply with Quote
Dave,

for obvious reasons I'm interested in this now, but I am confused by what they are doing. Is that not essentially a riverbed style device running the traffic over an IPSec tunnel, with on the fly encryption occurring into the cloud storage?
The figures kinda work out as that, 2% for the tunnel and 3 to 4% overhead on the encryption to the cloud storage.

Next thing we'll get Security labs freezing HyperVisor Hosts in liquid nitrogen and examining RAM to see if the data is in there in an un-encrypted state.

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Edited by - wobble_wobble on 07/13/2011 6:19:45 PM
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Posted - 07/20/2011 :  5:07:38 PM  Show Profile  Visit Mark Minasi's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Already doing that, Joe... how do you think I keep the beer cold?<g>

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Posted - 08/25/2011 :  10:51:48 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Edited my original post with this link..

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/08/25/idUS166750+25-Aug-2011+PRN20110825
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